I need feminism because only 1 of 12 of the books we’ve read in class during the last 2 years had female protagonists.
Our stories are worth honoring too.
I originally started playing video games because my older brother played them, and like a lot of younger siblings, I wanted to do what my brother did. After all, it was so much cooler than “girl stuff.” Most toys and games conveyed the same message: Boys got action figures, not dolls. Boys got to have watergun fights, not play dress-up. Much like their videogame counterparts, boys got to do things, and I wanted to do things too. But I couldn’t just pick and chose what I wanted from one column or the other.
After all, “girly” wasn’t a neutral descriptor; it was an accusation and one that I was always presumed guilty of. If I wanted to be powerful, capable or respected, I couldn’t let anyone hang it on me. I needed armor. So I learned to dismiss and condescend to “girly” things, to avoid them, just the like guys around me.
But rejecting female culture didn’t make me stronger, it made me weaker. It gave me fewer choices, and ultimately denied me my full humanity—just to claw a little bit higher in a system of stereotypes that told me I was less of a person simply because of the way I’d been born.
“It’s difficult enough to find a game where a woman is the main character. Finding one where you play as a woman and have positive, meaningful interactions with other women? It’s like spotting a goddamn unicorn.”
Even a brief look at AVFM shows how necessary analysis of power dynamics and patriarchy are to justice movements. They have writers arguing that women aren’t strong enough to be in the military and that women’s athletics shouldn’t be supported because women aren’t as physically competent. Then, on the same site, they bemoan how most U.S. combat deaths are men (no critique of militarism or colonialism to be found, of course) and that men abused by women aren’t taken seriously. They do this without seeing the connection. If you paint women and weak and helpless (as so many things do), then you are contributing to the belief that only men should be in combat and that any man should be able to handle assault from poor, feeble women.
Simple fucking stuff.
Did you know that feminism actually pushed for lowered physical standards for women in places like firefighting, because they weren’t getting in otherwise? Did you know that feminists pushed for the Duluth model and VAWA, both of which paint the perpetrator as the bigger, stronger person, and then go on to say stuff like “Yeah, but DV is worse when it happens to women because men are stronger”? Did you know that women once shamed men into military service even if they were too young to fight, and who the fuck knows how many of those boys died because of those women, deaths which are not attributable to militarism or colonialism? Did you know that most army women don’t even want combat roles?
And mostly, did you know that AVFM is written by a bunch of different people who might not share the same viewpoints and pointing to different articles written by different people as “proof” of how hypocritical they are in their beliefs makes literally no sense?
Wow, you totally misrepresented those articles you linked.
"Lowered physical standards" says "There have been occasional charges of some departments lowering standards so that they could hire more women. In 2005, Laura Chick (the LA City Controller) stated in a report that Fire Chief Bamattre rolled back physical requirements and ordered that women be passed even if they failed their tests.” As that was the sentence I assume you linked to — tell me how “Laura Chick” is suddenly the entire movement of feminism?
And “shamed men into military service” says “Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather…” And yes, prominent feminists OF THE TIME supported him and the movement, you still neglect to mention that the ENTIRE MOVEMENT was started by a man. Maybe you thought that was irrelevant?
And “most army women” also says,
"According to the survey, the vast majority of the women who expressed interest in combat jobs were in the lower ranks, age 27 or younger.
Some of the more experienced soldiers said that if they had it to do all over again, they might choose one of the combat arms jobs.
But, what surprised even him was what the women named as their preferred combat career.
More than 30 percent of the survey respondents pointed to the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment.
The 160th is a specialized unit used to fly forces fast, low and deep behind enemy lines under cover of darkness. Seventeen women already work in the unit in administrative, intelligence and logistics posts. And there have long been women aviators and aircrew in the conventional Army, just not on the special operations teams.”
And whether AVFM is written by the same person or a bunch of people really doesn’t matter. If the site is run properly, then ALL ARTICLES should follow the same basic guidelines in terms of upholding the site’s mission/ideals.
Things were so much simpler before women started stealing all of my favorite things from me. I don’t care what anyone says. Women aren’t and will never be true fans of Doctor Who, Star Trek or any of that. You jumped in because you wanted attention. You became “fans” because suddenly liking sci-fi shows and fantasy became popular. You only want guys to drool over you because you’re girls who “like” geeky stuff. Kindly go jump in a lake and die.
A woman organized the letter-writing campaign to NBC to save Star Trek when it was on the verge of being cancelled after the first season, and thus enabled the show to continue on for three seasons allowing it to go into syndication and gain the following it did in reruns.
A woman organized the first ever Star Trek convention, and convinced NASA to donate a truckload full of stuff for said convention thus starting the tradition of Star Trek conventions featuring space for modern science.
A woman greenlit Star Trek while acting at the head of a major studio, and consistently fought pressure to cancel the show. This same woman was the person who greenlit Mission Impossible and was the first woman to head a major studio.
A woman wrote many of the most famous TOS episodes, and went on to write on to write episodes of The Animated Series, The Next Generation, and Deep Space Nine.
Learn your history.
You think women stole your favorite things? If it weren’t for women, those things wouldn’t even exist, but you probably don’t even know the names of the women who made that possible.
So much for “infinite diversity in infinite combinations”…
Who is the fake now?
i’m just laughing so hard right now bc it’s hitting me that there are geek guys who think that women would actually pretend to like this stuff to cater to guys. like it never really occurred to me the depths of how absolutely fucking stupid that idea is. ”we appear to have common interests but you still don’t like me so that must mean we don’t actually have common interests and you are not a real fan”. oh my god i just can’t right now. i want to feel offended by the fact that there is an idiot out there trying to tell me what i can and cannot like but i’m just too busy laughing.
Also, a lot of the current fandom terminology we take for granted originated in the Star Trek fandom, specifically Star Trek fanfic. And who were the major driving force behind Star Trek fanfic? Women.
Earliest spec fic texts in the English-speaking Western world were written by Thomas More (Utopia), Lady Margaret Cavendish (the Blazing World), and Mary Shelley (Frankenstein). Note that there are two women among those names.
I am so sick of these Fake Geek Guys who don’t even understand the history of the fandom they claim to want to protect.
Yeah, it’s always guys like this who believe the myth of the ‘fake geek girl.’ Guys so inept at human communication that they must cling to the idea that girls are SO DESPERATE for his attention that they devote days of their lives and a ton of money to cosplay/attend cons/staff cons/read comics/play MTG/play video games.
There’s cheaper and easier ways to meet guys a hell of a lot better than this doofus. Assuming, of course, that you’re interested in meeting guys. So many of the geeks I know aren’t… Inclined in that direction.
Trek was saved by women. It was the fan conventions and the fan zines and the FANFIC AND FANART that convinced the studios to greenlight the movies. That convinced them to greenlight the series. Also, the original producer of Doctor Who was a woman as well. We have always been there. They just chose to believe our contributions were unimportant.
A woman also executive produced the first two seasons of Doctor Who, specifically selected by the show’s creator. She fought for the first Dalek script, which BBC management did not want to produce.
If it weren’t for Verity Lambert, Doctor Who would have lasted the thirteen weeks it was expected to, and OP would be TheOncomingAbsolutelyNothing.
So, the guy that wrote this deleted it and gave a really sincere sounding apology. I say “sincere sounding” because he said “all the right things” except for the part when he explained, due to a horrible life event (for which I am sincerely sorry that you had to go through and am not dismissing the pain you’re in,) he was in a bad place when he wrote this. He said that he wasn’t excusing his behavior and expressed regret, but here’s the part that stood out - He said he didn’t mean any of it. Now I don’t know if he’s convinced himself that’s the case or if he just regrets that someone reblogged him and he started getting an avalanche of being called out, but that’s not how it works. If a person is in a “bad place ” or just not having a good day/week, that person does not spew forth this kind of hate when they don’t believe it to be true. You may keep it under wraps when in public, but it’s there in you. It’s very much like when a racist doesn’t use slurs in public because they know it’s unacceptable behavior when they’re not with “friendlies.” Here’s what happened. You were going through some painful times and in a bad place. This made you let your guard down and you spoke without your filter on because that stuff , which was pretty specific, doesn’t just come out of nowhere. If you don’t think you believe what you said up there, you’re in denial.
This guy wears yoga pants and hides his face, then confronts guys who look at his butt.
It’s important to see how aggressive some guys become after he confronts them with his actual gender and for sexualizing his butt. It looks like one of the hardest things for men nowadays is holding themselves accountable for the demeaning things they do to women.
This guy confronts the other guys staring at him way more than any girl I know would; obviously the video is edited, but I got the sense he purposely antagonized some of them past the “you staring at my butt?” line.
What stood out for me was how many of the guys staring used the excuse “I thought you were a girl” as if that made it ok to be staring.
Personally, I think glancing at someone you think is attractive is ok, but staring is not. The difference being the length of time.
However, as said above, notice how some of the guys get really aggressive when they find out he’s not a girl. That aggression is what makes cat calling scaryor even terrifying for girls.
I was asked in an interview once: “You’re writing another book with a female lead, aren’t you afraid you’re going to be pigeonholed?”
Has a man in the history of men ever been asked if he was going to be pigeonholed because he wrote two consecutive books with male leads? Half of the population is women. I lose my temper here. And it’s certainly not at you. It’s just this pervasive notion that “white male” is the default and you have to justify any variation from it.
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“Gender Bias in College Admissions Tests”, FairTest.org
And then people urge me everything is fine, of course it is, when you’re ignoring statistics that is.
Fun fact: SAT tests predict college performance pretty well for men, but they strongly underpredict college performance for women. http://spp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/12/20/1948550612469038.abstract
I think I’ve reblogged this before, but that study needs to be shared.
"Perhaps you need a crash course in taking hints. We’re not actually walking somewhere together; I’m trying to leave this conversation and you’re following me." - xkcd hover text
Margaret Hartmann, “Porn Star Publicly Breastfeeds Baby, Gets Accused of Promoting Pedophilia” at Jezebel. (via bodypartss)
“The only one sexualizing this image of me breastfeeding is you. Which makes me feel truly disgusted and violated.” - queer, feminist porn actress Madison Young (x)
Nobody should have to sign up for the draft, even straw men (or women).
I’ve been to the forums. I’ve interacted with the people. I’ve tried to give the men’s rights movement a chance. Unfortunately the people involved are much more concerned about derailing and dismantling feminism than actually solving any of those issues. As if they can’t make any progress until feminism is destroyed.
"Family court is unfair and biased towards women. Those darn feminists!" Except that the majority of lawmakers are old white men. From federal to state legislature… they created all the rules, regulations, and laws that govern the courts. They think they are doing men a favor. "Raising children is a woman’s job. Just send a check every month and let them take care of the ankle biters." And the whole family court system is pretty dysfunctional. It isn’t a utopia for mothers that grants their every wish. Mothers and fathers both have the same enemy. They have to influence the same lawmakers to improve the system.
Male rape victims don’t get taken seriously. Again, most detectives are men. Most of the police leadership are men. The lawmakers are mostly men. So let’s blame feminism for not getting justice.
You really don’t think women care about male victims of abuse? Many feminists are mothers of sons. Sons who they love to no end. Of course they care. Of course they want the justice system to care about their sons. Which is why feminists want to dismantle the system that says that men are strong and women are weak. The system that says men cannot really be raped.
The problem lies in how MRAs react to feminism. They see people talking about women’s issues and their reaction is not one of empathy. It is always, “What about us? Bad stuff happens to us too.” Just like that fellow who saw women trying to talk about their hardships in a work environment. He pipes in and complains about not being able to wear shorts. And worse, he equates his issue with theirs even though they aren’t even close in magnitude. Yes, it was a ridiculous example, but it perfectly demonstrated this common reaction men seem to have. When someone is talking about their problems, the proper response is not to reply with a list of your problems. No one is saying that your problems don’t matter, just that this isn’t the proper time to talk about them.
If the MRAs continue to derail every conversation by making it about them, they are not going to be taken seriously. There is plenty of space to talk about men’s issues. They don’t need to invade the space of feminism to be heard. And if they keep thinking women are the enemy, even though women are actually trying to make progress with some of the very issues you mentioned, they aren’t going to have much luck actually solving anything they care about.
And the MRA movement is “certainly isn’t about perpetuating misogyny.”
I’m sorry. Have ever BEEN to r/MRA on Reddit or the A Voice for Men website?
I think some big actors and musicians feel like they have to speak to their audience and that word [feminism] is confusing to their audience. But I don’t get it. That’s like someone being like, “I don’t really believe in cars, but I drive one every day and I love that it gets me places and makes life so much easier and faster and I don’t know what I would do without it.”
“I didn’t expect it would be all women and it was a small classroom and about 40 women were sort of sitting in a semicircle and the thought of spending two hours every week sitting there for the next four months was overwhelming.”
Male expects special accommodation because he doesn’t want to be around women, and then sues for discrimination. Amazing.
1. If you’re only shy around women, there’s a good chance that it’s caused by having sexist attitudes about women.
2. If you’re too shy to go to a class with all women, wouldn’t you also be too shy to go to court?
3. Drop the class if you can’t deal with its structure.
Let me get this straight. You signed up for a women’s study class - a class specifically designed to teach you about discrimination, gender studies, intersectionality, sexism, and feminism - but you didn’t expect the majority of the class to be women and can’t handle being in the minority? Hmmm…there’s a lesson in there somewhere.